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	<title>Comments on: LAT: McCain Says Obama Wants Socialism</title>
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		<title>By: comm315bh</title>
		<link>http://getdrunkandhope4thebest.com/archive/mccain-rightly-says-obama-wants-socialism#comment-2056</link>
		<dc:creator>comm315bh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally McCain takes of the gloves! There is something morally wrong with taking money from those who work and giving it to those who do not. It is the essence of the capitalist state that people can freely own the products of their labor. The twentieth century political philosopher &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iep.utm.edu/n/nozick.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Robert Nozick&lt;/a&gt; goes so far as to equate progressive taxation with slavery. He justifies this by saying that taxation “amounts to a kind of forced labor, for the state so structures the tax system that any time you labor at all, a certain amount of your labor time - the amount that produces the wealth taken away from you forcibly via taxation - is time you involuntarily work, in effect, for the state.” 

Now, it would be ridiculous for me to propose that Federal taxation should be completely flat with everyone paying the same amount. For example, as &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/10/18/what-s-so-awful-about-quot-spreading-the-wealth-quot.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Plank&lt;/a&gt; suggests “Charging everybody the same tax rate might sound simple. But it would actually impose a much harsher burden on the poor, since they end up spending much--if not all--of their incomes on the basic necessities of life, such as food, clothing, and shelter.” But, let us take a step back and look at how extreme Obama’s proposal really is. Under his plan, three out of every five voters will pay nearly nothing in taxes while the taxes will steeply rise for the other 40% of Americans. John McCain is absolutely right it saying that this sounds like socialism. How can only 40% of the country bear the full burden of Federal taxation? While, I will not resort to Nozick’s extreme, I will say that this surely does not ensure that Americans will be able to own the products of their labor. Let’s flatten the tax and (re)introduce the basic foundation of capitalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally McCain takes of the gloves! There is something morally wrong with taking money from those who work and giving it to those who do not. It is the essence of the capitalist state that people can freely own the products of their labor. The twentieth century political philosopher <a href="http://www.iep.utm.edu/n/nozick.htm" rel="nofollow">Robert Nozick</a> goes so far as to equate progressive taxation with slavery. He justifies this by saying that taxation “amounts to a kind of forced labor, for the state so structures the tax system that any time you labor at all, a certain amount of your labor time &#8211; the amount that produces the wealth taken away from you forcibly via taxation &#8211; is time you involuntarily work, in effect, for the state.” </p>
<p>Now, it would be ridiculous for me to propose that Federal taxation should be completely flat with everyone paying the same amount. For example, as <a href="http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/10/18/what-s-so-awful-about-quot-spreading-the-wealth-quot.aspx" rel="nofollow">The Plank</a> suggests “Charging everybody the same tax rate might sound simple. But it would actually impose a much harsher burden on the poor, since they end up spending much&#8211;if not all&#8211;of their incomes on the basic necessities of life, such as food, clothing, and shelter.” But, let us take a step back and look at how extreme Obama’s proposal really is. Under his plan, three out of every five voters will pay nearly nothing in taxes while the taxes will steeply rise for the other 40% of Americans. John McCain is absolutely right it saying that this sounds like socialism. How can only 40% of the country bear the full burden of Federal taxation? While, I will not resort to Nozick’s extreme, I will say that this surely does not ensure that Americans will be able to own the products of their labor. Let’s flatten the tax and (re)introduce the basic foundation of capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Sez</title>
		<link>http://getdrunkandhope4thebest.com/archive/mccain-rightly-says-obama-wants-socialism#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Sez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Gawd McCain finally gets it! I have been saying this for months and two weeks before the election he understands.  It took a plumber to wake his sorry ass up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Gawd McCain finally gets it! I have been saying this for months and two weeks before the election he understands.  It took a plumber to wake his sorry ass up!</p>
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		<title>By: catie</title>
		<link>http://getdrunkandhope4thebest.com/archive/mccain-rightly-says-obama-wants-socialism#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>catie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Latinos, no, it&#039;s not you, I am thinking the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Latinos, no, it&#8217;s not you, I am thinking the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Latinos4JohnnyMac</title>
		<link>http://getdrunkandhope4thebest.com/archive/mccain-rightly-says-obama-wants-socialism#comment-2030</link>
		<dc:creator>Latinos4JohnnyMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or does it seem like McCain and everyone in his camp have given up? I read today that McCain said &quot;don&#039;t feel sorry for me&quot; if he loses, since he has lived a good life and enjoyed his work in public life. Seems like we&#039;re the only ones still rooting for McCain to actually win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or does it seem like McCain and everyone in his camp have given up? I read today that McCain said &#8220;don&#8217;t feel sorry for me&#8221; if he loses, since he has lived a good life and enjoyed his work in public life. Seems like we&#8217;re the only ones still rooting for McCain to actually win.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Sez</title>
		<link>http://getdrunkandhope4thebest.com/archive/mccain-rightly-says-obama-wants-socialism#comment-2029</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Sez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a little late to start calling the Messiah a socialist, where were you John 6 months ago on this issue?  Couldn&#039;t  your handlers connect the dots between Ayres, Wright, ACORN et al = Socialism?!
Bunch of idiots must be republicans!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a little late to start calling the Messiah a socialist, where were you John 6 months ago on this issue?  Couldn&#8217;t  your handlers connect the dots between Ayres, Wright, ACORN et al = Socialism?!<br />
Bunch of idiots must be republicans!</p>
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		<title>By: Latinos4JohnnyMac</title>
		<link>http://getdrunkandhope4thebest.com/archive/mccain-rightly-says-obama-wants-socialism#comment-2028</link>
		<dc:creator>Latinos4JohnnyMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think Obama is technically more of a fascist than a socialist, but the socialist charge is easier for people to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think Obama is technically more of a fascist than a socialist, but the socialist charge is easier for people to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: catie</title>
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		<dc:creator>catie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well just got off the phone with my once upon a time conservative but now lunatic liberal with an even more lefty wife and told him that I hoped that when he and his beloved write their income tax checks next year they can smile to themselves that they&#039;re &quot;helping those behind them&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well just got off the phone with my once upon a time conservative but now lunatic liberal with an even more lefty wife and told him that I hoped that when he and his beloved write their income tax checks next year they can smile to themselves that they&#8217;re &#8220;helping those behind them&#8221;.</p>
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