Comments on: Illegal Aliens Demand Help From Obama

By: Latinos4JohnnyMac

Latinos4JohnnyMac — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 06:40:11 +0000

Hey — I just wrote a long rough response to Miss Carter, but then her long post disappeared. Oh well. Have a good night, all!

By: Latinos4JohnnyMac

Latinos4JohnnyMac — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 02:45:29 +0000

Catie, I do believe you gave Ms. Carter a shiner. Dattagirl!

By: Latinos4JohnnyMac

Latinos4JohnnyMac — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 02:41:22 +0000

Dear God, what happened here?

By: catie

catie — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:57:28 +0000

Miss Carter, Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. You are an idiot; if you even understood the incompetence of the LA government during Katrina then maybe you would have a clue. As for “speading the wealth” again you are clueless. I don’t work hard so that you and Peggy can mooch off of me but it seems your messiah is going to get his way and penalize those who work hard so you can sit on your deductions. How nice it is for you to live off the fruits of other peoples labor. I give 15% to the poor and if you don’t believe me, I don’t care. BTW you have completely misconstrued everything that was said so go back to the Kos Kids and Puffington Post and tell them how mean we were to you. That’s the liberal way. Later gator.

By: John Galt

John Galt — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:49:57 +0000

Right on, Catie.

By: catie

catie — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:19:21 +0000

@Miss Carter you’re right, I don’t know you’re thinking but you are typical of Obama supporters who show up on conservative leaning blogs saying “I had thought about voting for McCain but some reason or another that just came up I couldn’t” so forgive me if I don’t quite believe you.
As for Hispanics-you mentioned them not me. If you were around earlier you would have known we have had this discussion multiple times and I have relayed a story that I will not relay again regarding an illegal who impacted my life and he was from Germany. Not everyone mentions Hispanics. Yes, all of the illegals should be deported and an example should be set by deporting the Auntie. BTW did Obama ever articulate what his immigration policy would be? I am curious as the lack of McCain’s clear policy made you “move on”.
I don’t know what your agenda is-his agenda is pretty clear and you by virtue of admitting you voted for him and for his agenda must want to be on the gravy train (you know spreading around the wealth) like Peggy Moore. I am not a Marxist like Obama is, I am a capitalist ergo I voted for a capitalist not a Marxist. So, it appears your agenda is the same as his is. Remember he said on the campaign that when he was elected the planet would begin to heal, the oceans would decrease and that he was the one we’ve been waiting for. Those are his words not the words of John McCain. While I certainly didn’t agree with everything McCain said-again if you hadn’t just showed up late for the party, you would see that none of us did-he was the lesser of the two evils.
Again, forgive me but I’ve seen far too many of the Obama supporters trolling on to sites that are conservative leaning espousing his greatness.

By: catie

catie — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:12:17 +0000

Miss Carter-it’s obvious you are an Obama hack and you want us to see your point of view that we must “listen” to yourself and all the other Obama supporters because you all have so much insight to offer the neanderthals who didn’t vote for him. I seriously doubt you ever thought about voting for McCain but happened upon this site and decided to give us the benefit of your wisdom as a democrat and Obama supporter. Speaking for myself, I am sick and tired of those of you who voted for The One, telling us we must march in lock step with him. I will give him the same respect that your ilk have given George W Bush for 8 years.
It is the liberals who wish to give pedophiles a second chance and you are mistaken if you think people stop fighting for children once they are here, well conservatives do can’t speak for liberals like yourself. You should seek answers from the one you voted for. He is extremely liberal and will put liberals in the judiciary who have no problem with letting the abusers back on the streets. Perhaps you should study up on this issue and also look at the MA and VT legal systems as well.
As for immigration, we should make Auntie Obama an example but I will be surprised if she is ever deported. Yes, there are millions who should be deported and here is a newsflash for you-they’re not all Hispanic. Seems a bit racist to me that you point to that group first.

By: MissCarter

MissCarter — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:04:57 +0000

To Flession: Once again I apologize for the caps. I was not screaming, but I like people to pay attention to certain things. I will stay away from that – as I don’t want anyone to think I am coming to this website to be ignorant or a trouble maker. I am here to offer a different view on things. That’s all.

To Catie: Yes, I did vote for Obama. However he is not a messiah to me. Nor do I crown him “the one”. He is human just like the rest of us, and can make mistakes just like the rest of us. I do not hold him to any higher standard than anyone else. I considered voting for McCain solely because I was sure that he would say what I wanted to hear about illegal immigration – but he didn’t. That was the only issue I would have agreed with him on – so since that issue was looked over I voted for the person who I agreed with more. I agree if his aunt is here illegally, she should be deported. However, if the latinos are looked over then how do we choose who to deport and who we shouldn’t? It should go across the board.

To Lorione: You have a very valid point and I respect it. I just look at things a bit differently. The argument will always be about the viability of the fetus, and the debate does not seem to be going away anytime soon. The only thing that I can do is watch out for my own body and not contribute to the problem. I hope that people will find ways to not end up in that situation, and maybe one day this will be a non-issue. The one thing I can say is that I wish that people (not talking about you but just in general) would put the passion they put into the abortion issue, into issues that will protect our children after they are born. People fight so hard to make it that each pregnancy will be carried to term, but once the child is here, people stop fighting. Let’s get a law passed so that pedophiles will never get out of prison, or people that abuse children get more than a slap on the wrist. It makes me sick to see that a man can rape a 5 year old child, and still be around to see the light of day and walk amongst us – as if it were okay. I will just be glad when the day comes where we will leave people’s personal decisions within them to deal with and fight for things that seem to fall through the cracks.

By: John Galt

John Galt — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:06:56 +0000

Right on, Lorione.

By: Lorione

Lorione — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:20:19 +0000

Um…. Miss Carter, since when does a pregnant woman who cannot take care of a child “require” an abortion? Last I checked, adoption was still an option. Of course, it is a difficult and painful option. No doubt about that. But why is a woman’s comfort and convenience more important than a child’s life? If she’s truly honest about what she’s doing, and not just pretending to push a magical “do over” button, she would realize that once the pregnancy is a done deal, she’s a mother. Her choices are then to be a mom who raises her child, a birthmother who places her child for adoption, or the mother of a dead child. You can’t unring that bell, though plenty of people pretend they can. That’s the real inconvenient truth.

But you’re 100% right on immigration! :-)

By: catie

catie — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:25:01 +0000

So I guess you’re new here Miss Carter? And did you vote for the One? Seriously, we can all say during the primaries we would all have rather voted for x, y or z but in the end was the Messiah your choice? Just curious as he does have the auntie in Boston who still has yet to be deported. What say you, to quote Bill O’Reilly.

By: Flession

Flession — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:02:42 +0000

Ease up on the caps MissCarter You bring up good points, but throwing caps around like that makes you appear like you’re shouting kinda and diminishes the points you are trying to make.

Anyways, am I the only one who doesn’t think about people working in the fields for their families when the subject of illegal immigration? I have this nasty habit of thinking about the larger groups of individuals who come into the country and commit rapes, murders, bring in drugs, work for gangs/cartel and other things of that nature…

It’s not the majority, but it’s large enough for where we should start being more picky on who we give amnesty to instead of tossing it around.

“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

I don’t seem to recall it mentioning criminals or people who will not benefit us as a society.

By: MissCarter

MissCarter — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:24:37 +0000

I am a democrat – but at one point in time once considered voting for John McCain. During the PRIMARIES I LISTENED to EVERYBODY…I was not going to vote for someone just because they are from my party. My BIGGEST concern(during that time) was illegal immigration. I was waiting for SOMEONE to step up and stop trying to be politically correct and say “hey..we have no problem with immigration – BUT IF YOU ARE ILLEGAL YOU HAVE TO GO”..but to no avail NONE OF THEM DID.

Some people consider me harsh – but the key term here isn’t immigrant it’s ILLEGAL. How can you call an ILLEGAL person – INNOCENT!?? What if all americans thought like that? Well I am illegal for robbing that bank – but I am a GOOD PERSON so I am INNOCENT!!! We have immigration laws for a reason and they should be enforced…and ANYONE who breaks them – latinos, french, african, whatever – should be treated like the other criminals that break laws…Since we are giving a pass to illegal immigrants – we should excuse the rapists and the burglars and the pedophiles and anyone else that breaks a law…I mean our country doesnt want to give a break to Gays, or to the poor, or to single mothers, or to people that want abortions or any other people that want civil liberties that do not personally affect us – but yet we feel we can control it – so the same applies to illegal immigrants…if ALL americans are not created equal the illegal immigrants should not even be up for discussion…

Why give them a pass?? if they are innocent – SO ARE THE LGBT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET MARRIED – SO ARE THE WOMEN THAT MADE A MISTAKE AND REALIZE THAT ABORTIONS SHOULD NOT BE USED AS BIRTH CONTROL BUT AT THIS CURRENT TIME CAN NOT TAKE CARE OF A CHILD SO WILL REQUIRE ONE – as a dem, until we give these issues a pass and no longer bring them up – I WANT EVERY ILLEGAL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!! Whoever runs for president next BETTER MAKE THAT HAPPEN….

Good day

By: latinchic

latinchic — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:57:22 +0000

“Immigrants go to another country because they want to become part of that country, invaders go to another country because they want make that country part of their country.”

By and large, my experience has been that most do want to become a part of this country, and not that they want to make our country a part of their own. However, I do think that many immigrants demand things that they have no right to because they are made to believe they have that right.

A major re-education has to be done. I do this in my personal/local sphere of influence, and you would be amazed at how enlightened they are when they hear the conservative ideals, beliefs, and agenda. Of course, I try to be respectful and I think that goes a long way for any kind of civil discourse.

By the way, in regards to your last statement, I do consider myself an American of Mexican descent. But fyi, some Latinos get offended when we call ourselves American when they are technically “American” because they are from Latin America, South America, Central America, etc. I’ve always thought it a bit silly, but that’s just fyi.

Have an excellent day.

By: Paleocon

Paleocon — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:05:03 +0000

I think the problem here is a lack of familiarity with the English language. People who cross a national border without first obtaining permission to do so are not “immigrants”, they are “invaders”. Immigrants go to another country because they want to become part of that country, invaders go to another country because they want make that country part of their country. It shouldn’t be difficult to see to which group the “Por La Raza todos; por los otros nada” people belong. When you are ready to describe yourself as an American of Latin descent rather than a Latino, you will have taken the first step toward becoming a real citizen of this country. In my hometown, the chief of police was an American of Spanish descent and he spoke English. There were many others, but they all thought of themselves as Americans first. Myself? I’m an American of French, English, Scots, Irish, Creek, and Cherokee descent.